Solar blankets / covers: blue vs. silver back vs. clear
Solar blankets / covers: blue vs. silver back vs. clear
I owned an above the ground pool for probably a little over 16 yrs. In that time I've had every type of solar cover. My honest opinion is that black heats best. If you look at solar cell, solar heaters, solar anything they're always black; to absorb heat. And like someone said in a previous post, just make sure your water circulates from top to bottom.
Solar blankets / covers: blue vs. silver back vs. clear
I've been covering my pool for 30 years in the San Jose Bay area. Most of the heat loss from a pool is from evaporative cooling so ANY color pool blanket will eliminate that and will keep debris out as a bonus. We have little grandchildren right now and we're getting to be old wimps so I let the pool get as hot as it wanted and I've left the (light blue) blanket on all the time when we weren't swimming. This has been the coolest summer I've ever seen hear which was great for golf, but seemingly bad for swimming. Despite that I've been able to have a pool near 90 even when the daily high is only mid 80s (low high 50s) for weeks in a row. Helping it along I have a variable speed pump (Pentair Veriflow) that runs all day long at slow speed and keeps the water circulating.... that helps transfer the warmed surface water around the pool better and has really helped avoid algae problems and warm my pool better. I also try to wash the cover off once a month to keep it from getting too dirty. I only get 2-3 years from my covers and I've resigned myself to that cost so I tend to laugh at a 5 year warranty (which quickly dilutes after 2 years normally). My experience is the blanket gets you +10F, meaning it would be 80 degrees here in the summer without a blanket (low humidity means more evaporative cooling and cool nights).
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Solar blankets / covers: blue vs. silver back vs. clear
Without a cover in the S.F. Bay Area the water temperature if exposed to sunlight will get to roughly a little more than the average day/night temperature so for San Jose, CA in July and August with an average high of 82ºF and an average low of 58ºF, the pool would get to just a few degrees above 70ºF. The heat gain from the sun during the day, which is also limited by evaporation during the day, is offset by the heat loss from evaporation at night. So your cover is doing more than just 10ºF and is probably more like 15ºF (you may be in a somewhat warmer area of San Jose, so water temp without a cover might be 74ºF).
That sounds like your cover isn't that dark or opaque and you mentioned it was light blue. So I suspect that it is letting light into the pool so that would account for the greater heat gain since there won't be loss from evaporation and only from conduction through the cover (pretty minimal for a bubble-type cover) and walls and floor of the pool. The better insulating bubble-type translucent solar covers do get around 15ºF heat gain.
That sounds like your cover isn't that dark or opaque and you mentioned it was light blue. So I suspect that it is letting light into the pool so that would account for the greater heat gain since there won't be loss from evaporation and only from conduction through the cover (pretty minimal for a bubble-type cover) and walls and floor of the pool. The better insulating bubble-type translucent solar covers do get around 15ºF heat gain.
Solar blankets / covers: blue vs. silver back vs. clear
I have a clear cover and when I have my cover on, I don't need solar. I can easily get 15 deg above what I would without the cover so 84-86 degrees is easily achievable through most of the summer.
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Re: Solar blankets / covers: blue vs. silver back vs. clear
White or silver will be the best if you want a warm pool.
During the day take the cover off. During the night put it on.
This is what you should have learned in high school physics. Heat is transferred by 3 methods - convection, conduction and radiation plus the pool will also loss heat through evaporation. We don't need to worry about losing heat through convection, we lose very little by conduction and any cover will stop evaporation. So radiation is our main reason or pool temperature drops at night. A clear night sky has a temperature of -270 C. Now your high school physics teach should have shown you that a black object will BOTH absorb radiant heat from a warmer object better than a white object and it will radiate heat more than a white object. (most processes in physics work the same way forwards and backwards). So if you want to absorb heat you put a black blanket on but there is no heat to absorb at night. At night you want something that doesn't radiate heat, so you want the whitest (highest albedo) blanket you can find. The gold Mylar film used on the International Space Station would actually be the best.
During the day take the cover off. During the night put it on.
This is what you should have learned in high school physics. Heat is transferred by 3 methods - convection, conduction and radiation plus the pool will also loss heat through evaporation. We don't need to worry about losing heat through convection, we lose very little by conduction and any cover will stop evaporation. So radiation is our main reason or pool temperature drops at night. A clear night sky has a temperature of -270 C. Now your high school physics teach should have shown you that a black object will BOTH absorb radiant heat from a warmer object better than a white object and it will radiate heat more than a white object. (most processes in physics work the same way forwards and backwards). So if you want to absorb heat you put a black blanket on but there is no heat to absorb at night. At night you want something that doesn't radiate heat, so you want the whitest (highest albedo) blanket you can find. The gold Mylar film used on the International Space Station would actually be the best.
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Re: Solar blankets / covers: blue vs. silver back vs. clear
Does anyone know of a pool blanket where the 'bubbles' are locked as a sandwhich between two flat plastic layers. I am fed up with scooping out the broken 'nipples' which come off the blanket when it is removed from the pool., As I now need a new one I would like to get one that will not give me this problem in the future
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Re: Solar blankets / covers: blue vs. silver back vs. clear
Re the broken "nipples" with my last replacement cover I went for one with dog-bone or sort of figure of 8 shaped bubbles, it was called a Geo Bubble cover. It now 3 years old and not one off the bubbles has come apart. The plastic layer that forms the bubble side seems less deformed / stressed around the bubble. Been very pleased with it, about the same weight as previous covers but lasting much better. See link for more info:-
http://www.covers4pools.co.uk/acatalog/ ... overs.html
http://www.covers4pools.co.uk/acatalog/ ... overs.html
Re: Solar blankets / covers: blue vs. silver back vs. clear
I had used blue blankets for years, but this year I got the grey/silver because it was a heavier mil and I thought it might last a bit longer. My pool is not heating as well. The top 6" now gets VERY hot, but when the water gets mixed up by the swimmers the overall temperature is not holding as well as the blue ones did. Thinking about it.... the blue cover should is blocking out the short wave blue light which heats the blanket and the top a bit, but longer wave reds and yellows pass through and penetrate the water to a depth giving me more efficient and even heating. The grey/silver blanket SEEMS to be catching all or most of the light so that the top layer is heated by the blanket. Since overall temperature is a bit less I'm guessing more light is being reflected/radiated off too. I'll know for sure when September gets here and I see how long my season lasts. I will not get a silver blanket again and will have to consider scrapping this one and getting a blue or clear blanket for next season.
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